Confirmation
Template Name
LTX-2.3 template family:
templates/video_ltx2_3_t2v.json
templates/video_ltx2_3_i2v.json
templates/video_ltx2_3_ia2v.json
templates/video_ltx2_3_flf2v.json
templates/video_ltx2_3_id_lora.json
Potentially all *ltx2_3* templates should be audited.
Problem Description
The LTX-2.3 templates ship negative prompts (CLIPTextEncode, prefilled with terms such as pc game, console game, video game, cartoon, childish, ugly, ...) wired through LTXVConditioning into the sampler's CFGGuider. However the CFGGuider nodes are set to cfg = 1.
At cfg = 1, classifier-free guidance reduces to the conditional prediction only:
out = uncond + cfg * (cond - uncond)
out = cond when cfg = 1
ComfyUI's CFGGuider also skips the uncond pass entirely as an optimization in this case. So the negative prompt is silently ignored: editing it, or editing the prefilled defaults, changes nothing in the output.
This is confusing because the templates present populated negative-prompt boxes, which strongly imply they are active. Users naturally put suppression terms there, such as text, watermark, or ugly, but they have no effect.
Since LTX-2.3 appears intended to run at cfg = 1, simply raising cfg is probably not the intended fix and tends to degrade quality.
Repro:
- Load
video_ltx2_3_t2v.json.
- Put anything in the negative prompt, for example
text, watermark, ugly.
- Generate.
- The output is identical to leaving the negative prompt empty.
Confirmed so far:
| template |
CFGGuider cfg |
prefilled negative |
video_ltx2_3_t2v.json |
1, 1 |
pc game, console game, video game, cartoon, childish, ugly, ... |
video_ltx2_3_i2v.json |
1, 1 |
pc game, console game, video game, cartoon, childish, ugly, ... |
video_ltx2_3_ia2v.json |
1, 1 |
pc game, console game, video game, cartoon, childish, ugly, ... |
video_ltx2_3_flf2v.json |
1 |
blurry, out of focus, overexposed, underexposed, low co... |
video_ltx2_3_id_lora.json |
1, 1 |
pc game, console game, video game, cartoon, childish, ugly, ... |
Possible fixes:
- Document in the template that the negative prompt is inactive at
cfg = 1.
- Wire a guidance method that honors negatives at
cfg = 1, for example an NAG node such as LTX2_NAG in ComfyUI-KJNodes.
- Remove the negative-prompt box to avoid the false affordance.
ComfyUI Mode
Legacy Mode
Error Message / Logs
No runtime exception is thrown.
This is a template configuration issue confirmed by inspecting the template JSON:
- CFGGuider nodes have cfg = 1
- negative CLIPTextEncode nodes are prefilled
- the negative conditioning is wired via LTXVConditioning
- because cfg = 1, the negative prompt/uncond path is inert
Confirmation
Template Name
LTX-2.3 template family:
templates/video_ltx2_3_t2v.jsontemplates/video_ltx2_3_i2v.jsontemplates/video_ltx2_3_ia2v.jsontemplates/video_ltx2_3_flf2v.jsontemplates/video_ltx2_3_id_lora.jsonPotentially all
*ltx2_3*templates should be audited.Problem Description
The LTX-2.3 templates ship negative prompts (
CLIPTextEncode, prefilled with terms such aspc game, console game, video game, cartoon, childish, ugly, ...) wired throughLTXVConditioninginto the sampler'sCFGGuider. However theCFGGuidernodes are set tocfg = 1.At
cfg = 1, classifier-free guidance reduces to the conditional prediction only:ComfyUI's
CFGGuideralso skips the uncond pass entirely as an optimization in this case. So the negative prompt is silently ignored: editing it, or editing the prefilled defaults, changes nothing in the output.This is confusing because the templates present populated negative-prompt boxes, which strongly imply they are active. Users naturally put suppression terms there, such as
text,watermark, orugly, but they have no effect.Since LTX-2.3 appears intended to run at
cfg = 1, simply raisingcfgis probably not the intended fix and tends to degrade quality.Repro:
video_ltx2_3_t2v.json.text, watermark, ugly.Confirmed so far:
video_ltx2_3_t2v.jsonpc game, console game, video game, cartoon, childish, ugly, ...video_ltx2_3_i2v.jsonpc game, console game, video game, cartoon, childish, ugly, ...video_ltx2_3_ia2v.jsonpc game, console game, video game, cartoon, childish, ugly, ...video_ltx2_3_flf2v.jsonblurry, out of focus, overexposed, underexposed, low co...video_ltx2_3_id_lora.jsonpc game, console game, video game, cartoon, childish, ugly, ...Possible fixes:
cfg = 1.cfg = 1, for example an NAG node such asLTX2_NAGin ComfyUI-KJNodes.ComfyUI Mode
Legacy Mode
Error Message / Logs