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* Our primary real-time chat is in the *#linuxcnc-devel* channel on [irc.libera.chat](https://libera.chat).
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You can use [web chat](https://web.libera.chat/) or
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[connect with your own client](https://libera.chat/guides/connect).
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The chat is [logged](http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~tom-itx/irc/logs/%23linuxcnc-devel/index.html) by community member Tom L.
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The chat is [logged](http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~tom-itx/irc/libera/logs/%23linuxcnc-devel/index.html) by community member Tom L., and historical logs from freenode are [also available](http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~tom-itx/irc/logs/%23linuxcnc-devel/index.html).
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## Related products
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LinuxCNC or its derivatives are not the only CNC motion controllers.
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There are many alternatives - coming in all shades from very Open Source to stricly commercial.
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Also, all these CNC controllers will likely be embedded in larger workflows for which these are post-processors of data from CAD/CAM software.
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And every piece of software has its very own community.
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### Simulators
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*[CAMotics](https://camotics.org/) shows how G-code is executed
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### CNC controllers
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Controlling the motors themselves, access steppers/servos (or their drivers) directly or via non-intelligent cards like EtherCat or parallel ports.
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*[GRBL](https://github.com/gnea/grbl) OpenSource, for use on Arduino
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*[LinuxCNC](https://www.linuxcnc.org) OpenSource, for Linux, low-latency with real-time kernel
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*[Mach3](https://www.machsupport.com/software/mach3/) non-free, low-cost, for Windows
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*[Mach4](https://www.machsupport.com/software/mach4/) non-free, low-cost, for Windows
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*[Marlin](https://marlinfw.org/) Open Source, for use on Arduino or the [BigTreeTech GRC](https://www.biqu.equipment/de/products/bigtreetech-gtr-v1-0-bigtreetech-m5-v1-0-11-axis-3d-printer-motherboard)
*[TurboCNC](http://www.dakeng.com/turbo.html) OpenSource, for DOS
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In need of specialized hardware
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*[Acorn CNC](https://www.centroidcnc.com/centroid_diy/acorn_cnc_controller.html) non-free, low-cost, for Windows
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*[Duet](https://www.duet3d.com/) Open Source, connects via SPI to an RPi or also features its own web interface.
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Board includes drivers for steppers, under control of a modern TMC5160 chip.
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Provides its own G-code interface, with changes for adapting [from a 3D Printing background to CNC](https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Configuring_RepRapFirmware_for_a_CNC_machine).
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*[Drufel](https://drufelcnc.com)
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*[Estlcam](https://estlcam.de/) hardware is Open Source, software not, for Windows
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*[EdingCNC](https://edingcnc.com)
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*[KineticNC](https://www.cnc-step.de/cnc-software/kinetic-nc-netzwerk-steuerungssoftware/) from CNC-STEP needs ZERO-3 interface
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*[nccad](http://www.max-computer.de/x5e/index.html) non-free, for Windows
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*[ShopBot](https://www.shopbottools.com/support/control-software) needs a Control-Box
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