Surface Energy Balance #344
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@cecilehannay Gokhan was intending to post this to discussions instead of issues but didn't have permissions for some reason. do you have privileges to move this over to Discussions? I don't think I have the permission to do so. |
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Here is the TOA
Note: -1 times our usual convention to match what's in Gokhan's plots. |
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@gunterl, @wwieder, @dlawrenncar, @dabail10 ...... any thoughts on the land, land-ice, and sea-ice surface time series? |
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@danabasoglu, @dabail10 is out on PTO this week and Marika and I are both at a meeting for the rest of the week. We haven't looked at 349, but my understanding is that this run is similar to others. If so, there has not been a trend in NH or SH sea ice volume that would indicate consistent growth in either hemisphere. We can get diagnostics run on 349 early next week.
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Gustavo and I just looked at the surface heat flux time series from 346. They are very similar to those of 349. If we do not see trends in the sea-ice volumes, then there is an issue. Similarly, I expect to see energy loss from the land model equivalent to what is shown in these plots. ... and glacier melt at a constant pace. Or, possibly, I am missing something? |
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It's been a while since I looked at long diagnostics from land, but in 316 we're globally losing snow (below) We're also increasing global terrestrial water storage over time (which I'm struggling to align with global decreases in snow depth) I suspect that the changes in water storage on land are actually more important for the energy balance? I'll let others speculate on how long-term trends in terrestrial water storage may influence the land energy budget, and will run diagnostics on newer runs to share.
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Will be plotting the net surface heat flux times from the land side to make sure that it matches the one from the coupler diagnostics. Also please note that these flux values are globally scaled. This means that a flux of -0.03 W / m^2 is actually -0.03 / 0.3 = -0.1 W / m^2. Similarly, a flux of 0.01 would be 0.01 / 0.02 (?) = 0.5 W / m^2 over glacier covered regions. So, these are relatively large. |
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This is what I've used in the past to replicate the coupler energy balance diagnostics (now found in the diag log file): global_avg = (-A(0)+A(1)+A(2)-A(3)-A(4)-A(5)+A(6))*cpl_landfrac where A(0) = SNOW_FROM_ATM * latice latice = 3.337d5 ; latent heat of fusion (J/kg) |
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I have been looking at the surface energy balance in 349 using a script created by Gustavo. The plot here shows the annual-mean time series of surface fluxes that each component sees. The SUM is the sum of all these fluxes and its magnitude is as expected, that is, small. Isla is checking what the TOA is during this period. If Peter's bug fix is working then we should match the average atm fluxes over this period.
What is peculiar is rather constant heat fluxes for land ice and land components. While the former is gaining heat, the latter is losing heat. I would not expect such steady behavior over a 60 year period. Any thoughts? Are we supposed to consider land-ice and land surface budgets in a combined way?
Also there is a steady heat loss from the sea-ice model, particularly evident in the Southern Hemisphere. Meaning that we should see sea ice growth. Is this the case?
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