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Erdős Problem 1171: Partition Properties of ω₁² #1993

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What is the conjecture

Let $\omega_1$ denote the first uncountable ordinal. In partition relations notation, $A \to (B, C, \ldots)_\mu^n$ expresses that for any partition of $n$-element subsets of $A$ into $\mu$ colors, there exists a homogeneous subset of order type $B$ or $C$, etc.

Conjecture: For all finite $k < \omega$, does the partition relation
$$\omega_1^2 \to (\omega_1\omega, 3, \ldots, 3)_{k+1}^2$$
hold?

Related result (Baumgartner): Under Martin's Axiom, $\omega_1\omega \to (\omega_1\omega, 3)^2$ is true.

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Formalizability Rating: 5/5 (0 is best) (as of 2026-02-01)

Building blocks (1-3; from search results):

  • No existing Mathlib support for partition relations on ordinals
  • Uncountable ordinals ($\omega_1$) exist in Mathlib via Ordinal type, but partition relation machinery is absent
  • Ordinal arithmetic ($\omega_1 \cdot \omega$, powers) are defined in Mathlib

Missing pieces (exactly 2; unclear/absent from search results):

  • Formalization of partition relations ($A \to (B, C, \ldots)_\mu^n$) as a predicate on ordinals and cardinals
  • Infrastructure for expressing Ramsey-theoretic properties of uncountable ordinals and their products

Rating justification (1-2 sentences): Stating the partition relation predicate would require developing new definitional infrastructure from scratch, as Mathlib lacks even basic partition relation semantics for infinite ordinals. This is major foundational work beyond current set-theoretic formalization in Lean.

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    ams-03: Mathematical logic and foundationsincluding model theory, computability theory, set theory, proof theory, and algebraic logicams-05: Combinatoricsams-06: OrderOrder, lattices, ordered algebraic structureserdos-problemsErdős Problemsneeds-prerequisitesIn order to formalise this conjecture, some major additions on top of mathlib are needed.new conjectureIssues about open conjectures/unsolved problems problem. Category `research open`

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