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docs/adjacency/README.adoc

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* `EpistemicUpdate.echo-not-prop` — eight worlds, four consistent
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* `LinearErasure.echo-not-prop` — two annotated types, one erasure
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The general theorem (forwarded as Q2.1 in `next-questions.adoc`):
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for non-injective `f : A → B` with at least two distinct preimages
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of `y`, `is-prop (Echo f y) → ⊥`. The n=2 special cases are proved;
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the general theorem awaits gate-2 evaluation.
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The general theorem (Q2.1 in `next-questions.adoc`): for
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non-injective `f : A → B` with at least two distinct preimages of
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`y`, `is-prop (Echo f y) → ⊥`. **Proved.** The received-`y` form is
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`EchoTruncation.echo-not-prop`, re-exported as
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`characteristic.NonTruncatable.Q2-1`; the stronger constructed-`y`
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form (non-injectivity of `f` *forces* a non-propositional fibre,
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the `y` being produced rather than assumed) is
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`characteristic.NonTruncatable.non-injective⇒echo-not-prop`. The
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gate-2 audit (recorded in that module's header and in
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`next-questions.adoc` §Q2.1) demotes the received-`y` form as
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Σ-reducible and forwards only the constructed-`y` form as a
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candidate nominee.
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The truncation argument has formal exhibits for three of its
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(`TropicalArgmin`, `EpistemicUpdate`, `LinearErasure`). The
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general theorem (Q2.1) is unstated and unproven. Q2.1 is the
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single most leveraged open formalisation: closing it would
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discharge truncation arguments against all four
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truncation-vulnerable neighbours simultaneously.
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general theorem (Q2.1) is now **stated and proved** in
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`characteristic.NonTruncatable` (received-`y` form `Q2-1` plus the
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stronger constructed-`y` form `non-injective⇒echo-not-prop`),
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discharging the truncation argument against all four
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truncation-vulnerable neighbours at the general level rather than
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the three n=2 instances. The remaining open work is the gate-2
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*nomination* decision (the audit demotes the received-`y` form as
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Σ-reducible and forwards only the constructed-`y` form), not the
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formalisation.
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docs/echo-types/types-list-note.md

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# Draft note for the TYPES mailing list
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**Status:** draft, not sent. Written to satisfy gate G2 of the
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`types-list` readiness system (a self-contained, honestly sized
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framing note linking a type-checked artifact). Reviewed against the
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list's cardinal rule: *do not present a known notion as a new one.*
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Target list: `types-list@lists.seas.upenn.edu`
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(https://lists.seas.upenn.edu/mailman/listinfo/types-list).
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---
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## Subject
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Prior art: fibers studied systematically as the *residue* of
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information-losing maps (mechanised, `--safe --without-K` Agda)
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## Body
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Dear all,
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I have a small mechanised Agda development and a prior-art /
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related-work question. I want to be explicit up front about what is
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**not** new, because the honest framing is the question.
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### What the object is (and is not)
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The central object is, definitionally, the fiber:
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```
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Echo : (f : A → B) → B → Set
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Echo f y = Σ A (λ x → f x ≡ y)
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```
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This is `hfiber` / the homotopy fiber. I am **not** claiming a new
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type former. The development (`--safe --without-K`, no postulates,
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no holes, CI-checked; ~13k LOC) is an *editorial* programme: it
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studies fibers **systematically as the structured remainder of
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information-losing computation**, with
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1. an 8-axis taxonomy of how such remainders differ (extensional vs
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intensional, exact vs approximate, local vs global, canonical vs
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presentation-dependent, compositional vs not, static vs dynamic,
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proof-relevant vs irrelevant, information-theoretic vs
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computational access), each axis carrying a distinguishing
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formalised example; and
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2. a falsifiable identity claim with an explicit retraction
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protocol, audited per neighbouring framework (refinement types,
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setoid quotients, Galois/abstract interpretation, provenance
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semirings, IFC, QTT-style modal calculi, HoTT fibers).
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### The two structural distinctness arguments
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Against the neighbours, distinctness rests on two arguments, both
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with formal exhibits:
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- **Truncation.** For non-injective `f`, `Echo f y` is *not* a mere
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proposition. General form now proved
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(`characteristic.NonTruncatable`): a bare non-injectivity witness
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on `f` *constructs* an output whose echo fibre is non-propositional
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— the witnessing value is produced, not assumed. (The
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*received-`y`* form is, honestly, just the generic Σ fact "a Σ
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with two first-component-distinct elements is not `isProp`"; only
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the *constructed-`y`* form is more than that.)
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- **2-cell.** The natural 2-cell in the quotient and Galois
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encodings is itself Σ-over-preimages-shaped (equalizer; lattice
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meet) — formal exhibits `EchoVsQuotient.Sophisticated`,
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`EchoVsGalois.Sophisticated`.
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A negative result is also recorded rather than hidden: a
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cross-axis "integration recipe" over the five named decoration
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axes does **not** produce substantive simultaneous interaction
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(the EI-2 investigation); the distinctness load is carried only by
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the two arguments above.
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### The questions
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1. **Prior art for the framing.** Is the *systematic* treatment of
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fibers-as-information-residue, with an axis taxonomy of this
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shape, named anywhere I should cite? I know the obvious
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neighbours (HoTT fibers; container/polynomial functors;
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lens/optic theory; provenance semirings; QTT). What I am asking
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is whether the *organising programme* — not the object — has a
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name in the literature.
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2. **Characteristic-theorem status.** Is the constructed-`y`
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non-truncatability ("ordinary non-injectivity *forces* a
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non-propositional fibre", with the bad output produced from the
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non-injectivity witness) a recognised lemma with a standard
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citation, or genuinely folklore? I want to attribute it
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correctly rather than claim it.
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<repo URL>. The relevant module is
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`proofs/agda/characteristic/NonTruncatable.agda`; the taxonomy is
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`docs/echo-types/taxonomy.md`; the falsifiable-claim protocol is
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`roadmap-gates.adoc`.
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Grateful for pointers, corrections, or "this is just X under
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another name" — the latter is a useful answer, not a bad one.
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## Pre-send checklist (the readiness gates)
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- [x] **G2 — artifact exists.** Q2.1 proved and CI-checked; this
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note is self-contained and links the repo.
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- [ ] **G1 — prior-art saturation.** Before sending, do one more
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literature pass on: container/polynomial functors as fiber
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bookkeeping; "fibre-wise" / display-map framings; Spivak-style
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data-migration / provenance; any "information residue" usage in
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PL. The note must survive "isn't this just a polynomial functor /
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display map?" — pre-empt it in body §1 with one sentence each if a
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near-hit is found.
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- [x] **G3 — claim correctly sized.** Body opens by conceding the
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object is the fiber; asks prior-art and attribution questions, not
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"I invented a notion".
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- [ ] Replace `<repo URL>` with the public URL at send time.
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- [ ] Trim to ≤ ~400 words of body before sending; list readers
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reward brevity. The taxonomy enumeration can become "(8 axes;
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## Why this is postable now (vs. earlier)
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The trigger named in the readiness system was *closing Q2.1*. It is
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closed and CI-checked, so there is now a checkable result behind the
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prior-art question rather than a framework pitch. The one remaining
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genuinely open end — the *non-injectivity* form, which does not
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receive `y` but constructs it from a bare non-injectivity witness
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compile under `--safe --without-K` and are in the CI characteristic
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{-# OPTIONS --safe --without-K #-}
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-- Q2.1 — Generalisation of `echo-not-prop`.
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