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 ### Others:
 
+- [Pragmatic AI with Matt Stauffer](https://pragmaticai.fm/): [Kent C. Dodds on MCP and How Product Engineering Might Outlast Coding](https://pragmaticai.fm/episodes/kent-c-dodds-on-mcp-and-how-product-engineering-might-outlast-coding)
 - [Syntax](https://syntax.fm): [The Web's Next Form: MCP UI with Kent C. Dodds](https://syntax.fm/show/973/the-web-s-next-form-mcp-ui-with-kent-c-dodds)
 - [The Programming Podcast](https://www.youtube.com/@TheProgrammingPodcast): [How GREAT Senior Software Engineers Think! (Steal these 9 TIPS!) Kent C. Dodds](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEIG3n5W8_Q&list=PLhSJZbh9flb2wOaiiprOplVF6PQLLL5kP)
 - [Software Huddle](https://www.youtube.com/@SoftwareHuddle): [It's time to build Jarvis with Kent C. Dodds](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5eo0OIJlXo)