TCK Challenge: Server Async Tests

[jasondlee]

The WildFly team would once again like to challenge the tests in JaxRsServerAsyncTest. These tests and the functionality they exercise, while perhaps useful, are not required by the MP Telemetry 2.0 specification.

The only mention of "concurrency" in the spec is to note the removal of Jakarta EE Concurrency dependency, and the only mention of "async" is vague references to "sync and async" in describing some otel properties.

The purpose of a TCK is to verify an implementation's faithfulness to a specification, and since this specification is silent -- in any meaningful way -- the TCK should be as well.

[Yas-Franco]

The dependency on concurrency was removed in this pull request

[donbourne]

@jasondlee , can you please comment more on what you would like to see changed? As I understand, those tests are optional, and the dependency on Jakarta Concurrency was replaced with just needing an Executor service (per the above PR).

[jasondlee]

@donbourne I thought it was clear: these tests are verifying something that is not required by the specification. Regardless of how the concurrency is provided (JDK vs EE), concurrency is not required by the spec. It's just not discussed anywhere in the spec at all. That being so, this test, in a suite to verify compliance with a specification is out of place and inappropriate and should be removed.

It is currently not marked as optional as best as I can tell from the spec.

[Emily-Jiang]

We will discuss this challenge on the MP Telemetry call 7th October. Please attend if you can.

[jasondlee]

I had an external appt this morning (and was out last week), so I was unable to attend today's meeting.

[brunobat]

I don't mind having the test as mandatory. I was able to provide an executor (not Jakarta Concurrency) and successfully execute the test.

[jasondlee]

The question, though, is are the tests appropriate according to the spec. My assertion is that they are not. Optional's an acceptable work around, I guess, but that dodges the question a bit.

[Emily-Jiang]

The question, though, is are the tests appropriate according to the spec. My assertion is that they are not. Optional's an acceptable work around, I guess, but that dodges the question a bit.

It is not optional. The async part in Jakarta Restful Web Services is not optional either. Since MP Telemetry supports the usage of Jakart Restful Web Services, the async part is supported of course. There is no need to list every part of Jakarta Restful Web Services. We discussed this at length in the recent weekly calls. Please see the minutes for more info.