New “Ephemeral conversation” mode needed

[Jerome-Herbinet]

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Here’s a problem that, in my humble opinion, is limiting in day-to-day work with Nextcloud Talk.

At work (Arawa), I have a dedicated meeting room (called i.e. “Jérôme's conversation”) that I use 99% of the time for video conferencing. I use it to talk with one or more colleagues and/or a client. The problem is that participants remain on the participant list even after the call has ended.

For confidentiality reasons, especially regarding clients, I have to manually remove all previous participants every time.

If I ever forget to do this preliminary cleanup of participants (which is tedious):

• all previous participants are notified of any new call (unless, by chance, I decided to start the call silently)
• all new participants know who was in the room during the previous call

The problem is that Talk conversations are a hybrid of instant messaging and video conferencing.

I therefore suggest that you add a new “Ephemeral conversation” mode. This setting could be configured on a per-room basis and would ensure that participants are never saved.

Characteristics :

• A participant would ONLY appear if they joined the conversation (regardless of whether it’s for instant messaging or video conferencing). They would IMMEDIATELY disappear from the participant list as soon as they leave the room (whether by switching rooms or closing the tab).
• This mode would also automatically and IMMEDIATELY delete all written messages (chat history), attachments, and so on as soon as EVERYONE (including the organizer) has left the conversation.

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[nickvergessen]

• If you use a public conversation instead of an open conversation, users will be "removed" from the conversation when they navigate away. Sounds like what you'd need here atm.
• The other idea would be feat: Allow guests to contacts user via public profile "Talk to" link #10542 which is ready and "just" needs a frontend review of the AI generated frontend code :P

[Jerome-Herbinet]

• If you use a public conversation instead of an open conversation, users will be "removed" from the conversation when they navigate away. Sounds like what you'd need here atm.

Can you tell me what setting you use precisely to get a "public" conversation in the room's settings ?

[small1]

Either via the talk dashboard. "Start meeting now"

or in the meeting settings allow guests. (also available if you create a new meeting)

Or when you create a calendar event you get the option of public or private (on the latest versions)

[small1]

If you use the start meeting now the conversation will not be long lived.

[Jerome-Herbinet]

@small1, tested with the last Talk release of Talk for Nextcloud 32 and 33.

Nextcloud 32 :

• External e-mail invitation : user remains ❌
• Public link : user disappears ✅

Nextcloud 33 :

• External e-mail invitation : user remains ❌
• Public link : user remains ❌ (bug / regression ?)

In any case, internal users always remain ❌

To summarize, it doesn't fit the described needs.

Cc @nickvergessen

[nickvergessen]

In any case, internal users always remain ❌

No, only when explicitly added or when the "Open conversation" checkbox is ticked