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CDS Working Group

Agenda

CDS in Action: Curb Collaborative Showcase

This Curb Working Group will feature:

  • Lessons from the first class of the Curb Collaborative
  • An introduction to the 2026 Curb Collaborative
  • Highlights from several members of the 2026 Curb Collaborative and the ways they plan to use CDS.

Minutes

Notes

See the recording and slides, chat and transcript, for details of the presentations and discussions of how OMF Curb Collaborative cities are using CDS and use cases for digital curb and public space management.

Chat

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  • 00:09:15 Andrew Glass Hastings (OMF): Hello everyone! Thanks for joining!

  • This deck and more details about today’s meeting can be found at the link here : https://github.com/openmobilityfoundation/curb-data-specification/wiki/Web-Conference-2026.03.31-Curb

  • 00:11:49 Andrew Glass Hastings (OMF): We will be at Curbivore in LA in April and hosting a Mobility Mixer on the evening of the 15th. Please join us at the link below: RSVP is required.

  • 00:13:16 Andrew Glass Hastings (OMF): We will also be at NACTO Designing Cities in Minneapolis in May and hosting an OMF Academy Workshop Tuesday, May 12 from 9:00-12:00, sponsored by INRIX! Save the date with registration coming soon!

  • 00:14:46 Andrew Glass Hastings (OMF): Announcing the 2026 Curb Collaborative: https://www.openmobilityfoundation.org/2026-curb-collaborative/

  • 00:15:32 Andrew Glass Hastings (OMF): If you have any questions about CDS, the Collab, events, etc, please feel free to use the chat. We have the OMF team on the call to help!

  • 00:17:47 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): See our combined information about both collabs on our webpage, including the final report, learnings, use cases, and who’s in the new collab. https://www.openmobilityfoundation.org/smart-curb-collaborative/

  • 00:26:29 Jyoti Goyal: Could you share your experience of extracting data from CAD drawings, that’s really interesting ?

  • 00:27:53 Christopher Shelley | City of Philadelphia: Replying to "Could you share your..."

  • Great question

  • 00:28:35 Jyoti Goyal: Thank you

  • 00:28:49 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): See the prior meetings, slides, and recordings here. Look at “Implementation Pain Points”, “Data Workflows and Change Management”, and “APIs, Webmaps and GitHub Pull Request Review”. https://github.com/openmobilityfoundation/curb-data-specification/wiki/1.1.0-Release-Planning-Meetings

  • 00:29:40 John Lundstrom (City of Minneapolis): Russ was integral to our Stage 1 and 2 awards!

  • 00:29:47 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Reacted to "Russ was integral to..." with 🌟

  • 00:29:58 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Reacted to "Great question" with ✅

  • 00:36:29 Leo Burnett (OMF): Portland’s Executive Report: https://www.portland.gov/transportation/planning/zero-emission-delivery/documents/zero-emission-delivery-zones-executive/download?utm_medium=email&utm_source=govdelivery

  • 00:36:57 Russ Brooks | PBOT: Reacted to "Russ was integral to..." with ❤️

  • 00:39:05 Kevin White: Welcome new members!

  • 00:41:40 Andrew Glass Hastings (OMF): So exciting to see new cities join the Collaborative to keep the CDS adoption momentum building! Welcome!

  • 00:42:30 Corey Bell: Reacted to "Portland’s Executive..." with 👍🏽

  • 00:42:44 Kevin White: Go Canadiens!

  • 00:42:53 Olivier Audet: Reacted to "Go Canadiens!" with 👍

  • 00:43:02 Mathieu Séguin: Reacted to "Go Canadiens!" with 👍

  • 00:44:17 Graham Rossmore (City of LA): Pasadena leading the way in LA 👍

  • 00:45:11 Andrew Glass Hastings (OMF): Reacted to "Pasadena leading the..." with 👏

  • 00:48:03 John Lundstrom (City of Minneapolis): Reacted to "Go Canadiens!" with 👍

  • 00:49:02 Dulce Gomez - City of Pasadena: Replying to "Pasadena leading the..."

  • Hi Graham!

  • 00:49:10 Graham Rossmore (City of LA): Replying to "Pasadena leading the..."

  • hi Dulce!

  • 00:49:20 Graham Rossmore (City of LA): Reacted to "Hi Graham!" with ❤️

  • 00:49:26 Dulce Gomez - City of Pasadena: Reacted to "hi Dulce!" with ❤️

  • 00:51:46 Melissa McMahon (Arlington, VA): Curious to hear any specific tips on how people are engaging their enforcement arms with modernization through technology?

  • 00:52:21 Graham Rossmore (City of LA): we've had to do workshops with enforcement officers to get them to change from just going by the green or red light

  • 00:52:27 Graham Rossmore (City of LA): it has been a challenge, they are quite set in their ways

  • 00:52:38 Graham Rossmore (City of LA): ALPR is the way to go, we are working on that

  • 00:52:45 Jon Hamblen (City of Pasadena): Reacted to "Pasadena leading the..." with 👍

  • 00:52:46 Kevin White: We had a recent discussion with Stan at USDOT about using SMART funds for enforcement.

  • 00:52:56 Graham Rossmore (City of LA): Reacted to "We had a recent disc..." with 👍

  • 00:53:03 Kenya Wheeler (SFMTA): Reacted to "We had a recent disc…" with 👍

  • 00:53:10 Leo Burnett (OMF): Reacted to "We had a recent disc..." with 😮

  • 00:53:18 Sarah Gallagher | Seattle DOT: Reacted to "We had a recent disc..." with 😮

  • 00:53:25 Jon Hamblen (City of Pasadena): Replying to "Pasadena leading the..."

  • Hopefully LA can come in right behind us!

  • 00:53:33 Kevin White: Apparently USDOT legal says it's still a no-no, but USDOT welcomes grantees to submit language describing how they would like to use funds to deal with enforcement, and they can have their legal review for applicability.

  • 00:53:46 Kenya Wheeler (SFMTA): San Francisco has implemented ALPR enforcement for 50% of our metered parking spaces (~14K out of 27K), and residential permit parking areas. These spaces and permit areas are included in our Curbs API.

  • 00:54:10 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Reacted to "San Francisco has im..." with 👀

  • 00:54:30 Kenya Wheeler (SFMTA): Reacted to "Pasadena leading the…" with 👍

  • 00:55:10 Oskar Jahr (Municipality of Bergen): In Bergen we have both static and mobile ALPR/ANPR Systems that have helped make the enforcement easier, as well as getting statistics and data for when and where we are enforcing plus where we have parking, which helps With making sure we are controlling Our areas evenly. We are looking to automate the last part, it is currently a manual workaround to a "proper" system

  • 00:57:47 Melissa McMahon (Arlington, VA): thank you all for those responses! very helpful

  • 00:59:40 Andrew Glass Hastings (OMF): Don’t forget about the OMF Academy for OMF public and commercial members. CDS 101 and CDS 101 sessions coming up next month! Reach out to Aylene at aylene@openmobilityfoundation.org for more info!

  • 01:00:17 Dulce Gomez - City of Pasadena: Thank you!

  • 01:00:20 Kevin White: Thank you!

  • 01:00:23 Jon Hamblen (City of Pasadena): Thanks everybody!

  • 01:00:24 Nick Auerbach (Walker Consultants): Thank you!

  • 01:00:24 Sarah Gallagher | Seattle DOT: Thanks

Transcript

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1 00:00:11.380 --> 00:00:17.200 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Hi, everyone. Welcome to the OMF's monthly curb working group meeting.

2 00:00:17.250 --> 00:00:35.060 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): My name is Michael Schnurla, I'm the Director of Open Source Operations at the OMF, and I'll kick off the meeting, and we have a great discussion and presentations today about the OMF Curb Collaborative and a showcase of some of the themes and cities that

3 00:00:35.250 --> 00:00:52.599 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): are involved with our second version of this. So, some housekeeping up front. Please add your organization name after your name in the participant list. You can rename yourself and put it afterwards, and that way we know who you're representing, and it helps with our note-taking.

4 00:00:53.430 --> 00:00:58.969 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): mute yourself, but go ahead and introduce yourself in the chat. You could say,

5 00:00:59.560 --> 00:01:02.900 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Why you're here, who you're with, things like that.

6 00:01:03.190 --> 00:01:15.479 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Welcome. And, use the chat to let us know if you want to speak. We will have some time for Q&A along the way, and you can also use the raised hand feature to get our attention.

7 00:01:15.740 --> 00:01:20.010 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): And this meeting is being recorded and will be published with notes afterwards.

8 00:01:23.040 --> 00:01:29.380 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): So we have a few announcements and a welcome up front, and then, most of the meeting will be a Curb Collaborative Showcase.

9 00:01:31.330 --> 00:01:34.369 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): So, like I said, this is the monthly curb working group meeting.

10 00:01:34.570 --> 00:01:35.770 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Let me just…

11 00:01:35.890 --> 00:01:50.329 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): go through a little bit about CDS. So, CDS provides a structured way to catalog and track how city streets, curbs, and street assets are used, including on and off-street parking, loading zones, rideshare pickups, deliveries.

12 00:01:50.570 --> 00:01:58.379 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): It ensures data is standardized, accurate, and helpful for managing those curbsides and efficient parking and usage.

13 00:01:58.690 --> 00:02:18.240 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): On the right here is our steering committee. These are OMF members that have volunteered to lead the discussions and the agendas and approve the releases as they come about for CDS and this working group. And CDS 1.1 just came out pretty recently and is being adopted.

14 00:02:20.120 --> 00:02:31.539 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): So CDS has 3 different parts. There's the Curbs API, which defines the physical locations, properties, and rules of different curbs and street areas and areas around the curb.

15 00:02:31.570 --> 00:02:49.250 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): The Events API tracks events and activity, loading and unloading, and other activities at those zones and curbs, and the metrics API is the standard way to roll all that up into useful information, which can then be used to improve your digital curb models and rules.

16 00:02:50.840 --> 00:03:00.069 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): It's been built in the open, it's open source, free to use, public participation from over 300 individuals in 130 different organizations that we know of.

17 00:03:00.070 --> 00:03:12.960 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): And this has created a nice ecosystem of competitive markets and solutions for curb management, and it's built through our open model through public meetings like this and online open source tools.

18 00:03:15.760 --> 00:03:28.900 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): A lot of people are using CDS. Here's a few highlights. There's more than this, but this just gives you an idea of some of the dashboards or physical signage and infrastructure that's being used around the world.

19 00:03:30.400 --> 00:03:50.220 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): We have a lot of resources for our newly launched CDS 1.1 in the slide deck, all these links are clickable. If you look at the agenda page, excuse me, for the meeting, you can see the slides, and you'll get them afterwards in our notes that we send out. So you can click each of these and learn about CDS and how to implement it.

20 00:03:50.480 --> 00:03:54.389 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): And, get basic and detailed information about it.

21 00:03:55.810 --> 00:03:58.980 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): And lastly, as our overview,

22 00:03:59.120 --> 00:04:13.059 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): this is a bit of a new way to present how MDS and CDS are connected to manage the public space. So, they work together, both specs, we have another public working group meeting monthly for MDS.

23 00:04:13.240 --> 00:04:14.860 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): But they both…

24 00:04:15.420 --> 00:04:31.199 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): create digital policy, both real-time and into the future, and historically. They are both… provide a way to share data about what's happening in your public space, and they both have metrics, and they can be used independently or cooperatively.

25 00:04:31.660 --> 00:04:42.130 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): CDS defines the physical objects and infrastructure that is around your public spaces and your public right-of-way.

26 00:04:42.390 --> 00:04:45.950 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): And then allows activity tracking for…

27 00:04:46.370 --> 00:04:49.180 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Things that happen around those areas.

28 00:04:49.690 --> 00:05:01.530 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): But MDS is all about vehicle locations across a wide area, a full jurisdiction. It includes the status of those vehicles for different services, all the ones you see here.

29 00:05:01.640 --> 00:05:06.110 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Different incidents that can happen, and trip information about them as well.

30 00:05:06.270 --> 00:05:15.360 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): So, collectively, they understand the movement of vehicles and the activity at the curbs and in different areas of the public space.

31 00:05:18.050 --> 00:05:19.879 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Alright, on to announcements.

32 00:05:20.400 --> 00:05:26.930 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): We'd like to thank our commercial members for being members of the OMF. We have

33 00:05:27.340 --> 00:05:31.999 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): You can see our Premier Members and Associate. There are a number of new ones here.

34 00:05:32.470 --> 00:05:47.290 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): I think Aileen, who usually manages this, was… this is not able to make it today, but off the top of my head, Navelle, Zooks, and anyone else wants to say who's a… who else is a new member?

35 00:05:48.090 --> 00:05:48.630 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): And…

36 00:05:48.630 --> 00:05:49.519 Andrew Glass Hastings (OMF): You got it, you got it.

37 00:05:50.050 --> 00:05:51.800 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Just the valid suits, okay, great.

38 00:05:51.800 --> 00:05:52.690 Andrew Glass Hastings (OMF): Yeah, got it.

39 00:05:52.920 --> 00:06:03.519 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): And these are all existing or returning members as well. So, great to see this. This helps build the specs and build that community and that ecosystem with the public sector.

40 00:06:05.010 --> 00:06:10.910 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): We also have an OMF calendar that has all of our public events and some of our member events as well.

41 00:06:11.000 --> 00:06:27.089 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Again, you can click these slides to get to the actual visual calendar, like you see here, or you can add them to your phone or desktop calendars with a Google or iCal link, and that way you can see everything that's happening, and it stays up to date with

42 00:06:27.090 --> 00:06:39.109 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Events, meetings, webinars, conferences, speaking engagements, etc, happy hours. And so, we'll put everything on here, and that's a good way to understand what's happening at a glance.

43 00:06:42.430 --> 00:06:45.289 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Alright, welcome everybody to this meeting. So.

44 00:06:45.650 --> 00:06:54.590 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): For the bulk of the meeting, we're gonna do a collaborative showcase, and Leo Burnett from the OMF and the collaborative will tell you what that's about.

45 00:06:54.950 --> 00:07:03.900 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): I'm going to stop sharing so that Leo can share and run the slides as they see fit, and…

46 00:07:04.160 --> 00:07:07.080 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Take it away, Leo. Thanks.

47 00:07:08.200 --> 00:07:08.900 Leo Burnett (OMF): Ain't.

48 00:07:09.480 --> 00:07:15.820 Leo Burnett (OMF): Hi, everybody. I'm Leo, I'm the program manager for the Smart Curb Collaborative.

49 00:07:16.460 --> 00:07:34.839 Leo Burnett (OMF): And excited to give you the update on some of the key learnings coming out of the first class of the collaborative that wrapped up in January. This is about 2 years of learning, experimentation, implementing curb pilots using CDS.

50 00:07:35.070 --> 00:07:49.860 Leo Burnett (OMF): And we'll talk a little bit, give you the full announcement of what's to come for the 2026 Curb Collaborative, including the members. If you are coming as a collaborative city.

51 00:07:49.960 --> 00:07:58.800 Leo Burnett (OMF): and you're either new to the collaborative or a continuing member, want to give you a chance a little bit later after some of the presentations to say hi.

52 00:07:58.860 --> 00:08:10.889 Leo Burnett (OMF): maybe give a few, a sentence about your project, if you feel inclined. No pressure, but just want to make sure that everyone here has a good opportunity to say hi, and I see a lot of different

53 00:08:11.010 --> 00:08:13.009 Leo Burnett (OMF): Cities and different members here.

54 00:08:13.570 --> 00:08:33.549 Leo Burnett (OMF): So, to start off, I want to share our final report called Shared Learning for Smarter Curbs. Again, this is about 2 years, even longer than that, when you take into account when the SMART grant started for a lot of these projects. So, if you want to get a good sense of the state of

55 00:08:33.549 --> 00:08:39.410 Leo Burnett (OMF): Digital Curb, some of the key lessons coming out of these initial pilots.

56 00:08:39.919 --> 00:08:47.890 Leo Burnett (OMF): three of those that I'll highlight now, and that you'll hear from some of the cities, including San Francisco and Portland,

57 00:08:47.990 --> 00:09:03.530 Leo Burnett (OMF): I think the big, big lessons that come out of this are sharing information with each other in a collaborative peer environment has been really helpful for cities that are starting curb programs, that are trying to operationalize these kinds of programs.

58 00:09:03.530 --> 00:09:09.039 Leo Burnett (OMF): being able to share about vendors, how to write the best RFP,

59 00:09:09.240 --> 00:09:27.419 Leo Burnett (OMF): right-sizing technology decisions, it's helpful to talk about all of that with your peers. Second thing to highlight, and that I think especially San Francisco is gonna talk a little bit about, is the importance of digital curb inventories, and with this next class of the collaborative.

60 00:09:27.530 --> 00:09:36.600 Leo Burnett (OMF): a key theme that has come up is how to maintain these inventories. That's something that also came up the first time around, and…

61 00:09:36.930 --> 00:09:52.260 Leo Burnett (OMF): it's one thing to kind of get a snapshot, a picture of the curb, and it's another to operationalize it and figure out a way to keep it up to date. So you can expect that we'll be talking about this likely in the curb working group as well over the next year.

62 00:09:52.530 --> 00:10:05.709 Leo Burnett (OMF): And of course, the third is technology alone is not enough. Operationalizing this, making sure you have support from your city's leadership, from the top all the way on down, figuring out how to…

63 00:10:05.710 --> 00:10:16.360 Leo Burnett (OMF): get the most out of your curb data. There are a whole host of items, related to digital curb that have really very little to do with your technology decisions.

64 00:10:17.690 --> 00:10:30.519 Leo Burnett (OMF): So, as we're starting the next year, first class of the collaborative were 10 cities, all based in the U.S, and funded by the USDOT Smart Grant Program.

65 00:10:30.770 --> 00:10:33.530 Leo Burnett (OMF): We're keeping the name, the Smart Curb Collaborative.

66 00:10:34.220 --> 00:10:46.499 Leo Burnett (OMF): And it's no longer based in the U.S, no longer only tied to Smart Grant federal funding. So, we're really excited to welcome, cities from across the world and Europe

67 00:10:46.720 --> 00:11:04.760 Leo Burnett (OMF): and in Canada, from Montreal, Dublin, and Bergen, and we have quite a few cities who are kind of, we'll call them, continuing, kind of the veterans, if you will, who were part of the first class of the collaborative and are continuing on to this next 2026 collaborative.

68 00:11:04.760 --> 00:11:19.189 Leo Burnett (OMF): I'm gonna do a proper introduction and highlight some of those new and continuing members after we hear from San Francisco and Portland, sharing a little bit about these lessons from the first class.

69 00:11:19.600 --> 00:11:23.780 Leo Burnett (OMF): And then, yeah, I would love to welcome and say hi to all of the new members.

70 00:11:24.150 --> 00:11:33.230 Leo Burnett (OMF): And with that introduction, I'm just gonna check the chat. Thank you, Andrew, for sharing the, announcement. So…

71 00:11:34.180 --> 00:11:40.030 Leo Burnett (OMF): I'm going to now invite, San Francisco to talk a little bit about

72 00:11:40.510 --> 00:11:55.279 Leo Burnett (OMF): overarching theme, CDS as the source of truth, and a lot of lessons that, are related to that. Alex, do you want me to share the screen? Do you want to do it? What's your preference? And I don't know if you're necessarily the one presenting or not.

73 00:11:55.630 --> 00:11:59.740 Alex Demisch (SFMTA): I am. I can just… I don't have that many slides, I can just tell you to go to the next one.

74 00:11:59.970 --> 00:12:00.650 Alex Demisch (SFMTA): Alrighty.

75 00:12:02.310 --> 00:12:03.380 Leo Burnett (OMF): Alright.

76 00:12:04.510 --> 00:12:06.760 Alex Demisch (SFMTA): All right, well…

77 00:12:07.050 --> 00:12:17.770 Alex Demisch (SFMTA): You know, talking about how long ago the first collaborative started made me, think how long I've been using this, low-tech, three-legged stool clip art to describe our project, if you haven't seen it before.

78 00:12:17.820 --> 00:12:31.700 Alex Demisch (SFMTA): There it is in all its glory. So we've described our project as a three-legged stool. The first is to assemble the digital curb and put it together for the first time. Cleo said once you've got it, we need to maintain it, so,

79 00:12:32.240 --> 00:12:35.929 Alex Demisch (SFMTA): we, I've logged on that we are…

80 00:12:35.980 --> 00:12:53.479 Alex Demisch (SFMTA): we, as of MTA, need to maintain that data because we're the agency that plans, approves, and implements 99% of the curb changes in San Francisco, so we just want you to capture those changes in our systems, and we're aiming to do that through integration with our asset management and other

81 00:12:53.480 --> 00:13:00.829 Alex Demisch (SFMTA): operational systems. The third leg of the stool is to make use of it. It's so important we get to use it. So…

82 00:13:00.830 --> 00:13:02.459 Alex Demisch (SFMTA): Two main ways we're doing that.

83 00:13:02.620 --> 00:13:16.580 Alex Demisch (SFMTA): a public… one is a public-facing webmap, and just other, kind of, data visualization tools, like maps and dashboards, and the other is an openly available CDS Curbs API. So, I'll tell you more about,

84 00:13:16.580 --> 00:13:27.420 Alex Demisch (SFMTA): the assemble piece. We were largely done with that through our work with INRICS last year. We are, I think, eyeballs deep in the maintain and disseminate legs, and we intend to release that data publicly

85 00:13:27.610 --> 00:13:30.040 Alex Demisch (SFMTA): In the fall of this year.

86 00:13:30.460 --> 00:13:31.949 Alex Demisch (SFMTA): Next slide, please.

87 00:13:35.340 --> 00:13:42.850 Alex Demisch (SFMTA): So more on, yeah, the, the assemble curb data part, that's, that's what is, we have completed.

88 00:13:44.090 --> 00:13:58.729 Alex Demisch (SFMTA): Thinking back a couple years ago, when we got the grant or we're applying for it, we thought that assembling the curb data would involve a lot more on-street data collection than we did, like, boots or reels on the street using all sorts of technologies.

89 00:13:58.730 --> 00:14:10.459 Alex Demisch (SFMTA): But INRIX came with much of San Francisco already mapped, which they'd done previously using open datasets, aerial street-level imagery, targeted ground truthing.

90 00:14:10.990 --> 00:14:26.419 Alex Demisch (SFMTA): And so we also have our… a lot of internal data sets, so the task was to take all of that data and combine it into one. So all of that data we now have combined, refer to as San Francisco's Digital Curb, and that was one of InRIX's,

91 00:14:26.980 --> 00:14:34.150 Alex Demisch (SFMTA): key, deliverables and contributions to us is the ending result data set. We have…

92 00:14:34.390 --> 00:14:40.629 Alex Demisch (SFMTA): To get a little bit in the weeds, like, we have stored all this data, like, internally in our systems, you know, we own it.

93 00:14:40.760 --> 00:14:58.969 Alex Demisch (SFMTA): We stored it in what we've called aptly, like, the internal curb data model, which is largely based… largely is the curb data specification. We've just, like, added fields and relationships, that tie that data to our internal systems, like our city centerline system, our asset management system.

94 00:14:59.200 --> 00:15:05.879 Alex Demisch (SFMTA): And some of those additions also later got added to CDS as, like, curb objects.

95 00:15:05.950 --> 00:15:22.490 Alex Demisch (SFMTA): So just, like, worth noting that, like, this… like, how do we store data in what format? It largely is CDS, like, that's the structure. We have a table for… for curb zones, with geometries, we have tables for policies, and all those same relationships that you see in the curbs API.

96 00:15:22.560 --> 00:15:34.320 Alex Demisch (SFMTA): And INRICS, like, as they were pulling all the data together and going through the procedures that we talked about, like, they would provide this data on an ongoing basis, and they did that,

97 00:15:34.380 --> 00:15:43.130 Alex Demisch (SFMTA): it could have been, like, a CDS API itself. We decided not to do that since it was a short-term project, but it was… largely could be. And so, just to kind of raised this…

98 00:15:43.240 --> 00:15:50.740 Alex Demisch (SFMTA): something we hadn't thought about before. We always talked about the Curbs API as a way to share data, you know, publicly, externally, but it also became a valuable way

99 00:15:50.930 --> 00:15:56.430 Alex Demisch (SFMTA): To share data just between, like, city and vendor, you know, internal relationship, internal communication.

100 00:15:57.830 --> 00:15:59.649 Alex Demisch (SFMTA): Alright, next slide, please.

101 00:16:02.330 --> 00:16:21.200 Alex Demisch (SFMTA): So, reconciling conflicts, I, you know, I said that, we in RICS took all that data and combined it into one. You know, that, that is not so easy, which I'm sure many of you know. Instead of what we might have thought would be, like, a big data collection effort, turned into a very big, like, data integration and data reconciliation effort.

102 00:16:21.380 --> 00:16:32.659 Alex Demisch (SFMTA): So we have to come up with very clearly defined procedures to resolve conflicts. You know, if you've got 3, maybe 4 different sources of potential truth, how do we… how do we figure out what… which one that is?

103 00:16:32.780 --> 00:16:39.999 Alex Demisch (SFMTA): So we came up with a procedure with indirect, so they would take each… each record that we had, they would compare it to what they had.

104 00:16:40.170 --> 00:16:51.120 Alex Demisch (SFMTA): And if they conflicted, they would cross-check against street-level imagery. If that didn't solve the issue, they would check against the work orders that we have that have kind of detailed information about what the change should be.

105 00:16:51.730 --> 00:17:09.160 Alex Demisch (SFMTA): And if all else fails, then they went out to the street and checked. So, you know, it was doable, we just had to come up with a procedure, and it took some back and forth to figure out, like, yes, are these the right steps? How reliable? What are the pros and cons to each of these sources of truth or indicators of what is out there?

106 00:17:09.599 --> 00:17:10.999 Alex Demisch (SFMTA): Next slide, please.

107 00:17:12.310 --> 00:17:28.379 Alex Demisch (SFMTA): So, this is, I wanted to make sure we had these all written down. I think 1 and 2 I largely covered already, but summing up our lessons thus far, you know, that it is possible to do it, leverage existing data, I think maybe

108 00:17:28.560 --> 00:17:40.319 Alex Demisch (SFMTA): if you're city, if you think you don't have any curb data, you probably do. It's just stored in different formats, you just have to come up with that, you know, the effort to consolidate everything and to reconcile differences.

109 00:17:40.430 --> 00:17:46.849 Alex Demisch (SFMTA): Lesson number 3, different use cases for curb data means different information needed.

110 00:17:47.120 --> 00:18:01.070 Alex Demisch (SFMTA): So when we… when Interx had responded to our RFP and said, hey, we already have the data, and we started work on the… on the contract, you know, I think we all were a little… maybe had a rosy-eyed, thinking, oh, like, this is gonna be a cinch, this is gonna be easy.

111 00:18:02.070 --> 00:18:12.369 Alex Demisch (SFMTA): But I think just because, you know, we have quote-unquote data doesn't mean we have all the data that we need. And so this was an interesting, I think, learning for all of us, like.

112 00:18:12.820 --> 00:18:13.830 Alex Demisch (SFMTA): in Rick's…

113 00:18:13.840 --> 00:18:29.960 Alex Demisch (SFMTA): because they collected the data for a different use cases, which is largely, like, private auto drivers selling for in-vehicle navigation systems, they targeted the data to be for the audience of private auto drivers. So something that might not be available to a private auto driver, like a commercial loading zone.

114 00:18:29.960 --> 00:18:47.500 Alex Demisch (SFMTA): was just… didn't have all the details. It was just kind of coded as no parking because, well, to the relevant audience, that's what it meant. But now the audience had changed. It's not just private auto drivers, but for city staff, crew managers, we needed more detail for things like commercial living zones. So those were areas where we needed to build out

115 00:18:47.500 --> 00:18:52.630 Alex Demisch (SFMTA): The data, and so just, again, keeping the use cases and your audiences in mind.

116 00:18:52.830 --> 00:18:56.980 Alex Demisch (SFMTA): Because that informs the data that you need to collect and how you need to store it.

117 00:18:58.010 --> 00:19:15.419 Alex Demisch (SFMTA): Number four, this whole approach to using asset-based updates, is a viable approach. I think that this kind of worked out. This was a theory that we had at the beginning, but as we got through it, you know, that theory does play out to be true, and this is getting more into the maintenance part.

118 00:19:16.240 --> 00:19:34.030 Alex Demisch (SFMTA): it's just not as maybe automated as we initially thought. You know, it's great if we can link our regulations to assets. We have an incomplete signed asset inventory that's growing more and more complete, you know, as the days goes on, but if we just didn't have assets for certain regulations, that was a challenge.

119 00:19:34.310 --> 00:19:48.369 Alex Demisch (SFMTA): Another challenging part was just differences in spatial granularity, you know, signs are points, curb zones are lines, or polygons. We also use a lot of, curb paint to define, curb zones.

120 00:19:48.620 --> 00:19:53.950 Alex Demisch (SFMTA): And our agencies, I mean, I'll say our first attempts to have, like, staff

121 00:19:54.380 --> 00:20:09.119 Alex Demisch (SFMTA): draw lines representing those curb zones, like, that curb paint in geospatial tools has been a little challenging, so we're shifting a bit. We do have a linear referencing system into our digital curb, and

122 00:20:09.320 --> 00:20:27.209 Alex Demisch (SFMTA): I want to thank, JC Techs for their support on that, for that work. So now we're trying to see, are there ways that we can use that linear referencing system to generate some of the curb spatial geometry. So, hopefully more to come on that. And last, again, maybe confirming something that we all knew, but

123 00:20:27.310 --> 00:20:47.259 Alex Demisch (SFMTA): there's a lot of interest in this. Like, as we've stayed… tried to stay engaged with stakeholders and ultimately curb users of the data, you know, they have… we say, like, we're building this. Is this interesting? Do you want it? And the answer is, the majority of the time, like, yes, oh yeah, that is interesting. Like, yeah, we are… we are just to get that when you have that available, so…

124 00:20:47.260 --> 00:21:03.889 Alex Demisch (SFMTA): And internally, we've started to use the data to… just to support some of those internal cases, and we get, you know, requests that have typically in the past been fire drills of how many temporary towaway zones at Chinatown. We've started to use that data to respond to those, so, it's already starting to save us some time and some headaches.

125 00:21:05.490 --> 00:21:11.969 Alex Demisch (SFMTA): So, yeah, I will leave it at that. Hopefully more to come over the, the year, on the maintenance side.

126 00:21:14.640 --> 00:21:26.259 Leo Burnett (OMF): Thanks, Alex. On that last point, the variety of use cases, were a lot of those from within the city that you're saying that was kind of solving some headaches for you already?

127 00:21:26.770 --> 00:21:31.069 Alex Demisch (SFMTA): Thus far, yes, because it's just been internal, we haven't released the data publicly yet.

128 00:21:33.110 --> 00:21:33.820 Leo Burnett (OMF): Thank you.

129 00:21:35.540 --> 00:21:51.400 Leo Burnett (OMF): Well, excited to share a little bit more from other projects, but if you have any, like, immediate questions, I'll give a little pause now, and if you remember them later, then we can come back to Alex and San Francisco.

130 00:21:53.440 --> 00:21:58.089 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Leo, while people are thinking, I'll just make a comment about some things Alex said.

131 00:21:58.850 --> 00:22:01.739 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): we… I just… if you're interested in

132 00:22:02.060 --> 00:22:15.890 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): how Alex and SFMT are handling their internal data structures. We did have two prior public working group meetings about those infrastructures and how cities are handling that in more detail than what Alex showed, so…

133 00:22:16.130 --> 00:22:23.599 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): You can go back and look at our prior meetings. We also had a meeting that you can see the recording on of

134 00:22:23.710 --> 00:22:38.259 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): the difference between storing this curb data internally and sending it out to CBS through an API or to an ArcGIS web map, and the way San Francisco is doing it is great, you know, they've sort of

135 00:22:38.260 --> 00:22:47.260 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): internally made it work with CDS, and then added some more information, that's perfect, and it doesn't have to align with CDS, even internally.

136 00:22:47.290 --> 00:23:04.440 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): But when you go to export it as CDS, because that's the point of CDS, is this sharing of information and rules, and curb zones, and availability, that's where you do the little bit of transform, and if it's stored correctly internally, it makes that output easier.

137 00:23:04.440 --> 00:23:13.990 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): And you may still want to output that internal data as a web map as well, but that has different use cases than CDS. So, if you're interested in that, we also have a

138 00:23:13.990 --> 00:23:18.360 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): a meeting you can watch about that, and I'll put our list of meetings in the chat.

139 00:23:18.370 --> 00:23:19.220 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Thanks.

140 00:23:22.090 --> 00:23:23.080 Leo Burnett (OMF): Thanks, Michael.

141 00:23:24.160 --> 00:23:29.089 Leo Burnett (OMF): I have a question in the chat, and I don't know, to what extent

142 00:23:29.250 --> 00:23:38.479 Leo Burnett (OMF): Alex or the SFMTA team might have anything to offer to this, can you share your experience of extracting data from CAD drawings?

143 00:23:38.820 --> 00:23:41.119 Leo Burnett (OMF): Was that one of your data sources, Alex?

144 00:23:41.320 --> 00:23:45.659 Alex Demisch (SFMTA): Yeah, so we have CAD drawings for our metered blocks.

145 00:23:45.900 --> 00:23:51.119 Alex Demisch (SFMTA): And that stores a lot of… that stores the, the,

146 00:23:51.510 --> 00:23:55.989 Alex Demisch (SFMTA): Like, the physical layout of the block and the measurement of each metered space.

147 00:23:56.350 --> 00:24:01.699 Alex Demisch (SFMTA): So we've been able to extract, like, the geometry for the space.

148 00:24:02.080 --> 00:24:20.499 Alex Demisch (SFMTA): Which has been really helpful in creating, then, the curb zones. I think the rest… I'll… Mui and Kenya, please feel free to jump in so they know more about it than I do, but I'll just say the rest of the, like, the meter drawings historically have also had some policy information,

149 00:24:20.820 --> 00:24:28.489 Alex Demisch (SFMTA): That we have stored in other operational data sets, so we've been relying on it mainly for the geometry piece.

150 00:24:35.390 --> 00:24:36.110 Leo Burnett (OMF): Great.

151 00:24:37.420 --> 00:24:44.389 Leo Burnett (OMF): Thanks for offering that. We're going to head over to Portland, and Russ…

152 00:24:44.590 --> 00:24:53.880 Leo Burnett (OMF): To talk about, using CDS for sustainable infrastructure, as well as any other, lessons you want to share.

153 00:24:54.990 --> 00:24:56.090 Russ Brooks | PBOT: Thanks, Leo.

154 00:24:56.420 --> 00:25:01.290 Russ Brooks | PBOT: Alright, let me know if you can see my screen.

155 00:25:05.680 --> 00:25:06.560 Leo Burnett (OMF): Looks good.

156 00:25:07.380 --> 00:25:30.869 Russ Brooks | PBOT: Okay. yeah, I'm Russ Brooks. I am, the Freight and… Urban Freight and Logistics Coordinator from, the City of Portland, and, so I was less involved in this project. I'm a little bit of, different. I actually started the SMART grant working in the City of Minneapolis with John Lundstrom and Dylan Freed.

157 00:25:30.870 --> 00:25:53.699 Russ Brooks | PBOT: And so I did about half that project, and then I moved, and took this position in Portland and did, sort of half this project. So, I came in a little on the later side. I'm less familiar with the technical side of this than I am, frankly, with Minneapolis, but still, even in Minneapolis, I'm less technical than John is. So, we really kind of focused on how do we use,

158 00:25:53.700 --> 00:26:18.580 Russ Brooks | PBOT: curb allocations as an incentive to drive, electrification and zero emission behavior. So, we really wanted to test how a combination of sort of incentives and regulations could change that. And so we really wanted to focus on curb management, testing and piloting new technologies, and then really partnering with the private sector, around, these new things.

159 00:26:18.600 --> 00:26:39.210 Russ Brooks | PBOT: Big fat timeline, but as, as Leo said earlier, this was a multi-year project, and really our goals were to establish a zero-emission delivery zone in our downtown core. We, linked together, about 10 or 12, different loading zones. We worked with, Automotus.

160 00:26:39.210 --> 00:26:41.959 Russ Brooks | PBOT: And Clever City to put up

161 00:26:41.960 --> 00:26:51.309 Russ Brooks | PBOT: cameras and sensors to really manage those. We developed a permit process, with the private sector to register

162 00:26:51.310 --> 00:27:16.269 Russ Brooks | PBOT: vehicles in. And then, secondarily, we had, sort of a micro-hub component to our grant as well. We are lucky enough to have a cycle logistics operator in Portland, Beeline Urban Delivery, and they have a small hub, a microhub on the other side of the river, and we were able to use that and work with them to kind of pilot for local businesses that did not have access to zero-emission vehicles.

163 00:27:16.400 --> 00:27:41.369 Russ Brooks | PBOT: that they could, divert their deliveries to Beeline, and then have Beeline bring them in via cargo, electric cargo trike. And so, just really here, the map on the right is what our zones, looked like downtown. And really, we had a lot of success. We had 65 different permitted vehicles for our 6-month pilot. Amazon really rerouted their Rivian.

164 00:27:41.370 --> 00:27:44.130 Russ Brooks | PBOT: DHL and hyphen purchased.

165 00:27:44.130 --> 00:27:48.710 Russ Brooks | PBOT: New EVs and, EV charging equipment, and FedEx.

166 00:27:48.710 --> 00:27:54.830 Russ Brooks | PBOT: diverted their deliveries as well. And we had a few others that we know, small businesses that engaged.

167 00:27:54.830 --> 00:28:10.989 Russ Brooks | PBOT: in the zones as well. And then we, as a city, use some of our smart funds to purchase a zero-emission delivery van for our, kind of, our printing, department to be able to make deliveries in the city. and then…

168 00:28:10.990 --> 00:28:14.979 Russ Brooks | PBOT: You know, worked with all those partners to really,

169 00:28:15.460 --> 00:28:27.080 Russ Brooks | PBOT: go through our, kind of our rules and our regulations around how we were going to manage the zones. And then we really partnered with INRIX to kind of digitize, much like San Francisco said, they grabbed these from kind of global sources.

170 00:28:27.080 --> 00:28:39.810 Russ Brooks | PBOT: And then, installed the sensors on the curb to help manage that, and I think one of the big pieces out of the data, the data, collection and, camera system for us was really

171 00:28:39.810 --> 00:29:02.840 Russ Brooks | PBOT: a shared understanding of really what was happening at our curb. I think one of the things that I learned here in Portland was that we didn't have a really good idea of what was actually happening at our curb and what our utilization really looked like. But the video monitoring really immediately among both city staff, but also among stakeholders.

172 00:29:02.840 --> 00:29:27.840 Russ Brooks | PBOT: that 75% of the time when there was somebody in a loading zone, it was a non-authorized vehicle. We have a very kind of responsive approach to our commercial loading in the city. If you want a load zone, reach out to us, we've got criteria, we'll review it, and then we'll create, or we won't create, a zone. But we really don't have much management of it after that, and so the way that the city works is

173 00:29:27.840 --> 00:29:41.560 Russ Brooks | PBOT: If it, you know, walks like a truck and it quacks like a truck, it's allowed to park in those zones. But if it doesn't, then you have to get a specialized permit. And, you know, if you're a DoorDash driver or a courier or somebody else.

174 00:29:41.560 --> 00:29:57.730 Russ Brooks | PBOT: To be fair, we've only had about 120 of those permits offered, so it's not particularly popular, or particularly used very much. We have about 50,000 to 75,000 commercial vehicles in the city, so that gives you a sense of how little we actually permit those.

175 00:29:57.730 --> 00:30:07.339 Russ Brooks | PBOT: The other piece was we actually put IoT devices on those cargo trikes for Beeline, and used, really an MDS feed,

176 00:30:07.340 --> 00:30:20.380 Russ Brooks | PBOT: We think the first for a logistics company, to really track those movements around the city and give us really a better idea of where those deliveries were happening and where, where the infrastructure was being used.

177 00:30:20.380 --> 00:30:25.950 Russ Brooks | PBOT: And so, you know, that's just a little bit more about this, but I think a big part of it was just

178 00:30:25.950 --> 00:30:48.929 Russ Brooks | PBOT: how undermanaged, overutilized and under-managed our commercial load zones are. And so, that was, I think, a big piece of it, and… oops, I'm going the wrong direction here. And so, as you can see here, this goes kind of back to the beeline trikes. We get a sense of where they were delivering around the city, what routing and infrastructure they were using, and…

179 00:30:48.930 --> 00:31:04.079 Russ Brooks | PBOT: have started to kind of make improvements in those areas to facilitate those deliveries as well. And so I think, really, moving forward, you know, we see a new curb management strategy as the biggest sort of learning that came out of this grant.

180 00:31:04.080 --> 00:31:25.220 Russ Brooks | PBOT: a much more, I'm calling it sort of a freight-forward curb management strategy. We're really leading with our commercial loading, activities, our pick-up and drop-off, ride-hail, prepared food delivery. Those three sort of commercial activities are really leading our new curb management strategy. But also, I think we want to figure out new ways

181 00:31:25.220 --> 00:31:49.769 Russ Brooks | PBOT: to implement new technology and sensors out in the field around the city. But the other big part, I think, is, you know, Alex gave a really good overview of SFMTA and the work that they've done around digitizing their curb. That's really the next step for us, and we had hoped that there would be a SMART2 grant cycle to be able to fund a lot of this work.

182 00:31:49.770 --> 00:32:11.710 Russ Brooks | PBOT: And unfortunately, I'm sure as everybody knows, that went away, and so we're still trying to figure out how we can, you know, put in kind of a stronger digital infrastructure in the city, as well as really a team to manage it. Coming from Minneapolis and having worked in a couple other cities, I'm, was really,

183 00:32:11.710 --> 00:32:32.669 Russ Brooks | PBOT: privileged in Minneapolis with the tech team and the work that they had internally. We don't have that as much in Portland, and so we're trying to really figure out how to accomplish those same goals without the same resources, maybe, that some of the other cities have. So, we're really starting from a policy and a technology standpoint, and then we'll kind of go from there, so…

184 00:32:32.830 --> 00:32:34.409 Russ Brooks | PBOT: I think that's about it.

185 00:32:37.480 --> 00:32:38.490 Leo Burnett (OMF): Thanks, Russ.

186 00:32:40.150 --> 00:32:46.150 Leo Burnett (OMF): I just shared a link to Portland's Executive Report, too, in the chat, which is…

187 00:32:46.280 --> 00:32:51.349 Leo Burnett (OMF): They gave a really good overview of their project and some of the lessons to come out of that.

188 00:32:52.690 --> 00:32:58.820 Leo Burnett (OMF): So, I previewed at the beginning, but now that we have gotten a good,

189 00:32:59.140 --> 00:33:04.459 Leo Burnett (OMF): Summary of some of the… returning, cities, including…

190 00:33:04.530 --> 00:33:22.260 Leo Burnett (OMF): Portland and San Francisco. I just want to give a welcome to some of the new and returning cities of the Collaborative. So, invite anyone who's on the call from Alexandria, Arlington County, Bergen, Dublin.

191 00:33:22.350 --> 00:33:34.239 Leo Burnett (OMF): Montreal, Omaha, Pasadena, Tacoma, and DC. These are new members to the collaborative, and then we'll have Boston, Minneapolis.

192 00:33:34.640 --> 00:33:52.020 Leo Burnett (OMF): Portland and San Francisco, San Jose and Seattle as returning members. This focus on freight and delivery has come up with several of the returning and new cities. I know that Seattle is also going to be focused on this, and some of the new cities have

193 00:33:52.040 --> 00:33:59.869 Leo Burnett (OMF): Mentioned hoping to learn more about, this in the next, year or so.

194 00:33:59.870 --> 00:34:12.639 Leo Burnett (OMF): So, does anybody want to give a quick say hi, where you're from, and if you want to share anything about your project, you can, but, no… no pressure if, if you don't have anything prepared.

195 00:34:13.310 --> 00:34:15.460 Leo Burnett (OMF): And I'll go, to Oscar.

196 00:34:17.060 --> 00:34:21.710 Oskar Jahr (Municipality of Bergen): Hey everyone, my name's Oscar, I'm from Bergen in Norway.

197 00:34:21.929 --> 00:34:28.400 Oskar Jahr (Municipality of Bergen): We're, of course, a pretty small city compared to a lot of the American ones especially here today.

198 00:34:28.670 --> 00:34:33.770 Oskar Jahr (Municipality of Bergen): But, we're looking to use CDS for two projects coming up.

199 00:34:34.060 --> 00:34:35.980 Oskar Jahr (Municipality of Bergen): One being that we're…

200 00:34:36.260 --> 00:34:45.149 Oskar Jahr (Municipality of Bergen): Trying to effectivize, goods delivery at the largest, like, city central, like, plaza here in town.

201 00:34:45.580 --> 00:34:56.910 Oskar Jahr (Municipality of Bergen): It has these, you know, not, asphalt, but stones that are being crushed by trucks. So we're looking to, sort of, make sure that only allowed trucks are supposed to enter, and so on.

202 00:34:57.150 --> 00:35:01.729 Oskar Jahr (Municipality of Bergen): And, also the largest freight terminal in Bergen is being moved out of town.

203 00:35:01.870 --> 00:35:05.820 Oskar Jahr (Municipality of Bergen): So with that, we're looking to make one of these, like, maybe…

204 00:35:06.200 --> 00:35:10.589 Oskar Jahr (Municipality of Bergen): Delivery position, so that we can switch to small trucks instead of having

205 00:35:10.720 --> 00:35:14.880 Oskar Jahr (Municipality of Bergen): To build those, these larger traders into town all the time.

206 00:35:17.830 --> 00:35:18.809 Leo Burnett (OMF): Thanks, Oscar.

207 00:35:23.330 --> 00:35:29.470 Leo Burnett (OMF): I see, matthew from Arlington, would you want to say hi to this group?

208 00:35:30.720 --> 00:35:36.040 Matthew Holden, Arlington VA: Hey! This is Matthew Holden from Arlington County, and

209 00:35:36.340 --> 00:35:53.490 Matthew Holden, Arlington VA: We've had a performance, parking pilot project in our two, kind of, commercial corridors in the county for the last couple years, where we installed, sensors in the roadway to get, like, occupancy and dwell time information at our paid, parking spaces.

210 00:35:53.630 --> 00:35:59.420 Matthew Holden, Arlington VA: That kind of, like, started our curb digitization, process.

211 00:35:59.540 --> 00:36:14.340 Matthew Holden, Arlington VA: Using CDS, but basically just for those paid parking blocks. Some ADA and tour bus information, but, basically just at our metered spaces, so now we're hoping to expand,

212 00:36:14.770 --> 00:36:29.950 Matthew Holden, Arlington VA: CDS and curb data throughout the whole county, kind of using our asset management system, and the sign changes to help digitize the rest of the county. So that's kind of what we're focused on.

213 00:36:33.310 --> 00:36:34.200 Leo Burnett (OMF): Thank you.

214 00:36:34.750 --> 00:36:38.500 Leo Burnett (OMF): I see, Sheila from Alexandria…

215 00:36:38.710 --> 00:36:42.409 Leo Burnett (OMF): I don't know if we have anyone from Dublin.

216 00:36:43.060 --> 00:36:44.940 Leo Burnett (OMF): Anyone else want to say hi?

217 00:36:48.240 --> 00:36:55.499 Sheila McGraw (City of Alexandria, VA): Hi, good afternoon to some, I guess good morning to others. My name is Sheila McGraw with the City of Alexandria.

218 00:36:55.730 --> 00:36:59.049 Sheila McGraw (City of Alexandria, VA): Excited to be part of this collaborative this year.

219 00:36:59.320 --> 00:37:04.299 Sheila McGraw (City of Alexandria, VA): We've been working with NRIX on doing our…

220 00:37:04.660 --> 00:37:10.130 Sheila McGraw (City of Alexandria, VA): CDS inventory, and are very excited to learn from others,

221 00:37:10.840 --> 00:37:13.179 Sheila McGraw (City of Alexandria, VA): Because San Francisco is mentioning authority.

222 00:37:13.470 --> 00:37:16.949 Sheila McGraw (City of Alexandria, VA): We're running into the challenge of keeping our inventory updated.

223 00:37:17.070 --> 00:37:31.520 Sheila McGraw (City of Alexandria, VA): But a big thing for us is, our loading zones in our Old Town area, managing those, and hopefully using some of these tools as a way to do that. So, excited to learn more from you all. Thank you.

224 00:37:33.020 --> 00:37:34.180 Leo Burnett (OMF): Thanks, Sheila.

225 00:37:34.770 --> 00:37:38.610 Leo Burnett (OMF): And Olivia from… Montrell, would you want to say that?

226 00:37:38.610 --> 00:37:40.019 Olivier Audet-AMD Montreal: Yeah, lower one.

227 00:37:40.730 --> 00:37:43.560 Olivier Audet-AMD Montreal: So… we already have,

228 00:37:44.450 --> 00:37:53.789 Olivier Audet-AMD Montreal: capture all our panel, assign a parking sign on sites. So we did a little pilot to evaluate how we can…

229 00:37:53.930 --> 00:38:02.440 Olivier Audet-AMD Montreal: use CDS to have this digitized. I will review the report just, just received.

230 00:38:02.590 --> 00:38:09.619 Olivier Audet-AMD Montreal: And our goals on our side, one of the goals is to have, like, the reconfirmation for LDPR enforcement.

231 00:38:09.930 --> 00:38:15.460 Olivier Audet-AMD Montreal: So we're pretty much operational, so need to be updated, so I urge some…

232 00:38:15.660 --> 00:38:21.529 Olivier Audet-AMD Montreal: tips on that, that we'll be, pursuing and, looking forward for, the, collaborative team.

233 00:38:23.260 --> 00:38:24.100 Olivier Audet-AMD Montreal: Thank you.

234 00:38:25.380 --> 00:38:28.380 Leo Burnett (OMF): And we are excited to, to visit.

235 00:38:28.380 --> 00:38:35.589 Olivier Audet-AMD Montreal: Yeah, sorry, yeah, Olivier from Montreal, Canada, so we're happy to receive you all, guys. All the color positive will be in Montreal.

236 00:38:35.880 --> 00:38:41.290 Olivier Audet-AMD Montreal: Okay, go see around, see a nice, nice infrastructure in Montreal, too.

237 00:38:42.300 --> 00:38:47.120 Leo Burnett (OMF): Yeah, we'll be going in person in June, the Collaborative Cities will…

238 00:38:47.650 --> 00:38:56.159 Leo Burnett (OMF): come to Montreal, and looking forward to some of the… On-the-ground tours, and… Seeing your infrastructure there.

239 00:38:56.810 --> 00:39:03.510 Leo Burnett (OMF): I see we have John from Pasadena.

240 00:39:04.250 --> 00:39:09.859 Leo Burnett (OMF): And we also have some other returning collaborative members, would love to say hi as well. John.

241 00:39:10.100 --> 00:39:11.420 Jon Hamblen (City of Pasadena): Hey, everybody.

242 00:39:11.550 --> 00:39:27.229 Jon Hamblen (City of Pasadena): Excuse me, my name's John Hamblin, I'm from the City of Pasadena here in Southern California. We are kind of putting the cart before the horse a little bit in that we're modernizing a lot of what we're doing here, and have installed new meters, are moving to a progressive

243 00:39:27.360 --> 00:39:45.249 Jon Hamblen (City of Pasadena): rate structure, occupancy-based, but we certainly want to include, CDS in utilizing that to help us leverage data and then better manage our curve, especially. You're hearing it elsewhere as well. We have a lot of issues with,

244 00:39:45.440 --> 00:40:00.190 Jon Hamblen (City of Pasadena): curb demand, especially in our downtown area, Old Pasadena, Donald Choup's backyard, if you will, and it's really time we start implementing some solutions to reduce congestion, VMT, and…

245 00:40:00.530 --> 00:40:05.769 Jon Hamblen (City of Pasadena): And start getting people to where we want them to go, so… That's our interest.

246 00:40:07.740 --> 00:40:08.680 Leo Burnett (OMF): Thank you.

247 00:40:10.260 --> 00:40:14.939 Leo Burnett (OMF): Brandon, I see you from, Omaha. Are you in a place to say hi?

248 00:40:18.390 --> 00:40:36.719 Brandon Patocka: I am here. Hey, Brandon, City of Omaha, we are excited to be part of the collaborative here with everybody, kind of see what is working, what isn't. We've had a CDS slash inventory project for a very long time. We're just kind of getting in the weeds of how to make sure we keep it the most accurate for what we have here in Omaha, and then moving forward with other,

249 00:40:36.720 --> 00:40:41.550 Brandon Patocka: Special events and different changes with our hooding, trying to do, you know, construction-based…

250 00:40:41.640 --> 00:40:48.719 Brandon Patocka: Closing of meters, how that affects our overall inventory in the field and real-time occupancy levels. Kind of happy and excited to see where it goes, thanks.

251 00:40:51.180 --> 00:40:52.350 Leo Burnett (OMF): Thank you.

252 00:40:52.730 --> 00:40:57.160 Leo Burnett (OMF): And Matthew from DC. Are you in a place to say hi?

253 00:41:00.330 --> 00:41:05.869 Matthew Spaniol (Washington, DC DOT): Hello, everyone. Yep, I'm, Matthew Spaniel from, Washington, D.C. DOT.

254 00:41:06.080 --> 00:41:13.690 Matthew Spaniol (Washington, DC DOT): Likewise, we've had, performance parking programs going back about 15 years now in DC.

255 00:41:14.150 --> 00:41:19.779 Matthew Spaniol (Washington, DC DOT): our most recent one in, the U Street corridor, was the first where we,

256 00:41:20.170 --> 00:41:24.650 Matthew Spaniol (Washington, DC DOT): are moving to using the CDS-based inventory of all of our,

257 00:41:24.890 --> 00:41:29.739 Matthew Spaniol (Washington, DC DOT): Parking areas, and also, assets, so,

258 00:41:30.090 --> 00:41:34.700 Matthew Spaniol (Washington, DC DOT): Meters and so forth, and mobile payment zones, to have that centralized in one database.

259 00:41:36.840 --> 00:41:54.890 Matthew Spaniol (Washington, DC DOT): And, yeah, we're looking to utilize CD… CDS, to, you know, make, rate and policy decisions based on occupancy and, turnover, and, also to help integrate for, you know, mobile payment, I mean, sorry, automated payment and, enforcement in the future.

260 00:41:57.480 --> 00:41:59.839 Leo Burnett (OMF): Thanks, looking forward to learning more about…

261 00:42:00.160 --> 00:42:02.310 Leo Burnett (OMF): That U Street project you all have.

262 00:42:02.870 --> 00:42:06.449 Leo Burnett (OMF): Any other new, collaborative members that want to say hi?

263 00:42:13.010 --> 00:42:21.569 Leo Burnett (OMF): And I'll kick it over to see if any of the returning members… I know we have, Sarah from Seattle, and a few others on as well.

264 00:42:28.820 --> 00:42:53.240 Sarah Gallagher | Seattle DOT: Good morning slash afternoon, everyone. Seattle… or Sarah with the Seattle Department of Transportation. With us, we got a Stage 2… a USDOT Stage 2 grant with Minneapolis, so kind of what we're doing is building off of Stage 1, so going to use CDS in our five priority neighborhoods to go ahead and digitize the curb there, as well as working on

265 00:42:53.240 --> 00:43:17.510 Sarah Gallagher | Seattle DOT: cleaning up our data, because what we found in Stage 1 is that while we do have a lot of data, it is… there's a lot of issues we've found over the years with collecting it and not having any kind of standardization that convert… converting it into CDS, can be a tricky process. So working with our data aggregator… aggregator Curve IQ, on making it kind of more a simplified process. And then over the next

266 00:43:17.510 --> 00:43:35.580 Sarah Gallagher | Seattle DOT: couple years looking onto is making it more of an automated system as far as when changes to the curb happen. We don't have to go through this whole process again. It can be more of a straightforward process to then convert it into CDS and then, of course, get it out to the people that we want to get it out to.

267 00:43:37.150 --> 00:43:46.209 Kevin White: I'll just add, this is Kevin White. I'm with Walker Consultants, helping manage the joint City of Minneapolis, City of Seattle project.

268 00:43:46.220 --> 00:44:02.350 Kevin White: really excited about the progress so far, kicked it off. A lot of good collaboration with the City of Seattle. We're actually headed out there next week to do some site visits, do some brainstorming and work planning. We're developing a RFP for procurement of technology right now, and kind of navigating through the

269 00:44:02.430 --> 00:44:07.390 Kevin White: early stages of reporting requirements and sort of fine-tuning our Stage 2

270 00:44:07.570 --> 00:44:10.440 Kevin White: Work plan, so really excited about

271 00:44:10.590 --> 00:44:14.630 Kevin White: where that's headed. So, thanks, and good to see everybody. Welcome, new members.

272 00:44:15.910 --> 00:44:17.649 Leo Burnett (OMF): Thanks, Kevin. Good to see you.

273 00:44:18.230 --> 00:44:24.139 Leo Burnett (OMF): And, John in Minneapolis would want to give you a chance to say hi as well.

274 00:44:28.560 --> 00:44:31.120 Kevin White: I think John had to drop the L.

275 00:44:32.140 --> 00:44:33.980 Kevin White: If I'm not mistaken.

276 00:44:34.630 --> 00:44:36.220 Kevin White: Oh, he is still here, John right here.

277 00:44:36.220 --> 00:44:40.279 John Lundstrom (City of Minneapolis): I am here, I'm just very sick. I'm sorry. I was mainly listening.

278 00:44:40.280 --> 00:44:41.170 Kevin White: covering.

279 00:44:41.830 --> 00:44:46.119 Leo Burnett (OMF): Thanks, it's good to hear a tiny bit of your voice. It sounds…

280 00:44:46.120 --> 00:44:47.040 Kevin White: I'm not going around.

281 00:44:47.050 --> 00:44:48.060 Leo Burnett (OMF): I was just typing.

282 00:44:48.060 --> 00:44:50.480 John Lundstrom (City of Minneapolis): I'm giving a thank you to Kevin for taking that.

283 00:44:50.820 --> 00:44:51.760 Kevin White: I thought you drew it.

284 00:44:51.760 --> 00:44:52.220 John Lundstrom (City of Minneapolis): Perfect.

285 00:44:52.220 --> 00:44:56.579 Kevin White: My apologies, John. There's a lot of stuff going around right now, yeah.

286 00:44:56.640 --> 00:44:57.890 John Lundstrom (City of Minneapolis): Thank you so much.

287 00:44:59.400 --> 00:45:07.530 Leo Burnett (OMF): Thank you. Okay, well, if anybody else wants to say hi, you're welcome to do that in the chat, but from these cities, you can get a sense of,

288 00:45:07.930 --> 00:45:21.759 Leo Burnett (OMF): what everyone is working on and what we hope to cover in the next year, some of the key themes from the first class of the collaborative are gonna look very familiar, to this next class, and there's…

289 00:45:21.830 --> 00:45:31.760 Leo Burnett (OMF): you may have gotten a sense from both Seattle and San Francisco that just gathering the data is one part of this process, and then cleaning, converting.

290 00:45:32.110 --> 00:45:43.519 Leo Burnett (OMF): Standardizing it is all, like, another process and a different part, so we may see a little bit more of a focus on that, now that we have a few years under our belt here.

291 00:45:43.630 --> 00:46:02.120 Leo Burnett (OMF): And what you can expect in the curb working group is there's going to be some continued conversations. We're hoping to find some more pathways where the cities themselves are going to talk about an issue, for instance, more on curb policy coming up for their meeting next week.

292 00:46:02.360 --> 00:46:07.920 Leo Burnett (OMF): and creating space so that those conversations can continue in this curb working group.

293 00:46:08.040 --> 00:46:13.939 Leo Burnett (OMF): So you'll see a little bit more of a direct connection between those spaces, than you might have seen in…

294 00:46:14.140 --> 00:46:19.429 Leo Burnett (OMF): the last, few years of the collaborative. So, excited for all of that.

295 00:46:19.650 --> 00:46:42.459 Leo Burnett (OMF): And I know Tacoma wasn't able to give an introduction or say hi today, but, I did want to mention them, and they are also working on a curb inventory project, and kind of seeking to have used CDS as a source of truth on their project. They're working with Y-Curb right now for their

296 00:46:42.460 --> 00:46:45.019 Leo Burnett (OMF): Digital mapping.

297 00:46:45.600 --> 00:47:03.569 Leo Burnett (OMF): Okay, I've spoken a lot. Really excited to have introduced these cities to you all. Want to open the floor if there's any questions about, either lessons learned or how any of these cities are, doing their curb projects, and any other questions for…

298 00:47:03.570 --> 00:47:06.109 Leo Burnett (OMF): The newer returning, collaboratives.

299 00:47:20.210 --> 00:47:24.549 Leo Burnett (OMF): One I might be curious about is if there's any other applications or new

300 00:47:25.040 --> 00:47:31.080 Leo Burnett (OMF): new ways that these cities are excited about, using CDS in the year to come,

301 00:47:54.770 --> 00:48:05.160 Leo Burnett (OMF): tip… specific… Melissa's looking at hearing any specific tips on how people are engaging their enforcement arms with modernization.

302 00:48:05.570 --> 00:48:08.349 Leo Burnett (OMF): Through technology. I know that,

303 00:48:08.490 --> 00:48:11.820 Leo Burnett (OMF): Montreal has done quite a bit of ALPR.

304 00:48:12.610 --> 00:48:14.920 Leo Burnett (OMF): And this is one other highlighted.

305 00:48:15.200 --> 00:48:21.349 Leo Burnett (OMF): Highlighted the difference between the… First and second collaboratives is we have… we can have more enforcement.

306 00:48:22.740 --> 00:48:28.080 Olivier Audet-AMD Montreal: Specifically, by Montreal, there's some places who have time-limited parking.

307 00:48:28.700 --> 00:48:37.990 Olivier Audet-AMD Montreal: So, patrolling this buy-in with, like, pictures, and coming back, looking for tires, and, stuff like that's pretty much complicated.

308 00:48:38.250 --> 00:48:41.339 Olivier Audet-AMD Montreal: So, having the automated system.

309 00:48:41.540 --> 00:48:56.959 Olivier Audet-AMD Montreal: helping us on this is pretty a good takeaway. So, it's already working. We maintain buy on the, digital, curb, but, having this is a nice goal. And the other one, I think we have many.

310 00:48:57.080 --> 00:48:58.399 Olivier Audet-AMD Montreal: Pyramid zones.

311 00:48:58.650 --> 00:49:04.710 Olivier Audet-AMD Montreal: So that's the other regulation we, focus, for the first, part of the in-production.

312 00:49:04.820 --> 00:49:06.849 Olivier Audet-AMD Montreal: So having all…

313 00:49:07.390 --> 00:49:17.460 Olivier Audet-AMD Montreal: The numerized curve with, permit zone numbers, and now having all the, permits, feed to the system, too.

314 00:49:17.520 --> 00:49:30.499 Olivier Audet-AMD Montreal: So that's helped pretty much the, the, HN to patrol the sector. So that was the main focus for now. We'll be probably extending the next year to all regulation.

315 00:49:30.730 --> 00:49:36.200 Olivier Audet-AMD Montreal: But that's the big goal that we have, and the big improvement for the engine.

316 00:49:36.670 --> 00:49:39.920 Olivier Audet-AMD Montreal: But I think the most important is having a…

317 00:49:40.080 --> 00:49:46.369 Olivier Audet-AMD Montreal: up-to-date curb this tide. That's the, most… most problem we have now.

318 00:49:50.070 --> 00:50:05.029 Mathieu Séguin: And maybe I can add a small point. I met you, also from Montreal, of course. We have a pretty complicated city governance in Montreal. We have…

319 00:50:05.040 --> 00:50:14.380 Mathieu Séguin: boroughs. We have 19 boroughs, each responsible for curb allocation, and,

320 00:50:14.520 --> 00:50:34.149 Mathieu Séguin: They are the ones that will put in the posts, the signage, and all. So, the updating the database and keeping it exactly as it is on the ground is quite difficult, because we don't have to work with only

321 00:50:34.520 --> 00:50:53.089 Mathieu Séguin: one city, basically. We work with 90 little cities within one big city. So that's a big challenge, and each of them have their own mayor and their own city councilor, so all the, the other aspects about,

322 00:50:53.270 --> 00:51:12.829 Mathieu Séguin: acceptation and prioritization of the project. You all have to go through these partners, so it's, it's a pretty big challenge, too, but, one we're, excited to tackle, and, we work with all these, these partners so we can,

323 00:51:13.030 --> 00:51:14.999 Mathieu Séguin: Achieve our, our goals.

324 00:51:20.640 --> 00:51:22.009 Leo Burnett (OMF): Thank you for sharing that

325 00:51:22.650 --> 00:51:31.509 Leo Burnett (OMF): And I think you probably do have the most challenging environment there with the different boroughs and governance.

326 00:51:35.390 --> 00:51:37.869 Leo Burnett (OMF): Seeing some really good comments in the chat,

327 00:51:39.040 --> 00:51:41.199 Leo Burnett (OMF): Would anybody want to speak to theirs?

328 00:51:42.740 --> 00:51:48.430 Leo Burnett (OMF): Kevin, did you have anything else you might add about the, enforcement. Previously.

329 00:51:48.430 --> 00:51:48.820 Kevin White: Selena.

330 00:51:48.820 --> 00:51:49.960 Leo Burnett (OMF): Yeah.

331 00:51:50.450 --> 00:52:02.470 Kevin White: This one was interesting. We recently finished our Stage 1 implementation report, and we had a call, Stan from USDOT reached out and wanted to talk to us about

332 00:52:03.460 --> 00:52:19.190 Kevin White: how shall I say this? Modifying our language to be more in accordance with the current administration's priorities. One of the things they mentioned, and this really isn't necessarily the current administration, but just sort of softening the language around

333 00:52:19.510 --> 00:52:25.310 Kevin White: how we intend to think about using enforcement or spending funds on enforcement in Stage 2.

334 00:52:25.470 --> 00:52:37.360 Kevin White: And he definitely said that there's a hard stance on no funds can be used to direct enforcement, to inform enforcement, to optimize enforcement.

335 00:52:37.520 --> 00:52:40.610 Kevin White: But he said that he's willing to have

336 00:52:40.770 --> 00:52:56.190 Kevin White: respective grantees actually develop, like, write up a letter or a description of how you intend to think about enforcement, or how you intend to spend money on enforcement as sort of a pitch, and then they're willing to take it and circulate it to their

337 00:52:56.190 --> 00:53:06.329 Kevin White: legal team. Like, one of the ideas we had was, could we issue warnings? Could we, at least give data to enforcement agents and sort of work through a process of

338 00:53:06.450 --> 00:53:21.849 Kevin White: how might you act on this data, but not actually, like, issue citations. And so, we're in the process of developing that document, and we're gonna share that with the DOT and see if we can get it approved. So, I would say other folks, if you have ideas for

339 00:53:21.970 --> 00:53:27.620 Kevin White: spending money on enforcement, definitely write it up and work with your DOT reps on that.

340 00:53:32.630 --> 00:53:33.609 Leo Burnett (OMF): Thanks, Kevin.

341 00:53:39.400 --> 00:53:40.220 Leo Burnett (OMF): Weird.

342 00:53:40.380 --> 00:53:47.770 Leo Burnett (OMF): Just about at time, A helpful conversation about enforcement, and this is something that…

343 00:53:48.110 --> 00:53:54.949 Leo Burnett (OMF): Of course, if you hadn't gathered, the SMART grant does… specifically does not allow to fund enforcement, so the first

344 00:53:55.120 --> 00:54:06.050 Leo Burnett (OMF): collaborative class, this was almost an elephant in the room at times, because enforcement can be so important to, a digital curb program, so…

345 00:54:06.140 --> 00:54:19.489 Leo Burnett (OMF): fact that there's maybe some flexibility there, and also now we're working with cities that, have CUR programs and are not funded through the SMART grant, so that will also be something that I think is more a part of the collaborative conversation, this year.

346 00:54:23.870 --> 00:54:28.789 Leo Burnett (OMF): Great. Anything else? We have maybe one more minute, if there's other comments or questions.

347 00:54:40.890 --> 00:54:42.700 Leo Burnett (OMF): Alright, Michael, I'll hand it back to you.

348 00:54:45.960 --> 00:54:47.590 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Alright, thanks, Leah.

349 00:54:48.600 --> 00:54:54.479 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Let me go ahead and… I can bring up the final, sort of, Going away slides.

350 00:54:54.610 --> 00:55:00.500 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): And then we can go from there.

351 00:55:06.660 --> 00:55:07.650 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Alright.

352 00:55:16.130 --> 00:55:21.269 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Alright, we have a number of, different resources available. Some of these I mentioned earlier.

353 00:55:21.540 --> 00:55:30.869 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): And so explore those, but you can, based on today's call, you can see a lot of different cities are using CVS in their work, and in their cities, and with their vendors.

354 00:55:30.870 --> 00:55:48.560 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): And with their consultants, so, you can also do that. You can explore CDS and see how it overlaps with your current probe activities. Speak with your team or partners, and learn how the new features, especially in CDS 1.1, might be useful in your projects, and reach out to the OMF.

355 00:55:48.720 --> 00:55:56.450 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): We're happy to answer questions or present to your team any detailed information about CDS and learn about your projects.

356 00:55:57.070 --> 00:56:15.269 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Our next meeting is going to be April 21st. The steering committee will set the agenda for that meeting, and in the meantime, there's… here's more resources on how to participate. But otherwise, thank you. Check out our website, LinkedIn, GitHub for our specification, and our YouTube channel.

357 00:56:15.600 --> 00:56:16.850 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Thanks, everybody.

358 00:56:16.980 --> 00:56:18.499 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): And we'll see you next time.

359 00:56:22.450 --> 00:56:23.420 Leo Burnett (OMF): Thanks, everyone.

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