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<li><a href="#documentation">Documentation</a></li>
<li><a href="#mailing-lists">Mailing Lists</a></li>

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You should not move a link to the mailing lists to "legacy", as it is still the primary way of discussing new features and technical details for PHP.

The support mailing lists are indeed less well used (if at all), but calling all lists "legacy" is also not accurate.

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Support mailing lists are legacy, so they should not be mentioned here as active.

<li><a href="#newsgroups">Newsgroups</a></li>
<li><a href="#user-groups">User Groups</a></li>
<li><a href="#events-training">Events &amp; Training</a></li>
<li><a href="#community-support">Community Support</a></li>
<li><a href="#user-groups-events">User Groups &amp; Events</a></li>
<li><a href="#irc">IRC</a></li>
<li><a href="#archive">Archive (Legacy resources)</a></li>
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href="/docs.php">documentation</a> section.
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<h2 id="mailing-lists">Mailing Lists</h2>
<h2 id="community-support">Community Support</h2>

<p>
There are a number of mailing lists devoted to talking about PHP and related
projects. <a href="mailing-lists.php">This list</a> describes them all, has
links to searchable archives for all of the lists, and explains how to
subscribe to the lists.
For day-to-day help and troubleshooting, the broader PHP community is very active in a few places:
</p>

<h2 id="newsgroups">Newsgroups</h2>

<p>
The PHP language newsgroup is comp.lang.php, available on any
news server around the globe. In addition to this many of our mailing
lists are also reflected onto the news server at
<a href="news://news.php.net">news://news.php.net/</a>. The
server also has a read only web interface at
<a href="https://news-web.php.net/">https://news-web.php.net/</a>.
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<p>
Mailing list messages are transfered to newsgroup posts and
newsgroup posts are sent to the mailing lists. Please note
that these newsgroups are only available on this server.
</p>

<h2 id="user-groups">User Groups</h2>
<ul>
<li>
<p><strong>Reddit:</strong> <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/PHP/">r/PHP</a> — look for the Weekly help threads that are pinned to the top for beginner and general questions.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Stack Overflow:</strong> browse or ask questions using the <a href="https://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/php">php tag</a>.</p>
</li>
<li>
<strong>Discord:</strong> there are many community-ran servers for chat-based help and discussion. Here are a couple of popular ones:
<ul>
<li><a href="https://phpc.chat/">phpc.chat</a></li>
<li><a href="https://discord.gg/php-developers-484326318851358720">PHP Developers</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>

<h2 id="user-groups-events">User Groups &amp; Events</h2>

<p>
Chances are that there is a User Group in your neighborhood, which are generally
a great resource both for beginners and experienced PHP users.
Check out the User Group listing on <a href="http://php.ug/">PHP.ug</a> to see if there
is one close by.
</p>

<h2 id="events-training">Events &amp; Training</h2>

<p>
A list of upcoming events (such as user group meetings and PHP training
sessions) is included in the right-hand column of the front page, and
on the <a href="/cal.php">event calendar page</a>. If you want to list
an upcoming event, just fill out the form <a
href="/submit-event.php">on this page</a>.
Connect with local and regional PHP User Groups and find upcoming meetups, conferences, and training sessions:
</p>
<ul>
<li>Find a user group near you on <a href="http://php.ug/">PHP.ug</a>.</li>
<li>Browse upcoming events on the <a href="/cal.php">event calendar</a>.</li>
<li>Want to list an event? Submit it <a href="/submit-event.php">here</a>.</li>
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<h2 id="irc">Internet Relay Chat</h2>

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<a href="http://oftc.net">OFTC</a>).
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<h2 id="archive">Archive (Legacy resources)</h2>

<h3 id="mailing-lists">Mailing Lists</h3>
<p>
Historically, a number of mailing lists were devoted to talking about PHP and related projects. While many are no longer active, you can still find their descriptions and archives on <a href="mailing-lists.php">this page</a>.
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<h3 id="newsgroups">Newsgroups</h3>
<p>
The PHP language newsgroup was comp.lang.php. Many of our mailing lists were also reflected onto the news server at
<a href="news://news.php.net">news://news.php.net/</a>. The server also has a read only web interface at
<a href="https://news-web.php.net/">https://news-web.php.net/</a>.
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Please note that these are legacy resources and primarily useful for historical reference.
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<h2 id="webmasters">PHP.net webmasters</h2>

<p>
If you have a problem or suggestion <em>in connection with the PHP.net
website or mirror sites</em>, <a href="/contact.php">please
contact the webmasters</a>. If you have problems setting up PHP
contact the webmasters</a>. <br> If you have problems setting up PHP
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or using some functionality, please ask your question on a support
channel detailed above, the webmasters will not answer any such
questions.
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