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From: ngtech1ltd at gmail.com (NgTech LTD)
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Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2025 04:07:06 +0200
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Subject: [squid-users] Man, I have really come to despise Squid.
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In-Reply-To: <20251224112440.614eab649768e2e6bd1ca697@killthe.net>
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Hey Dave,
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>From my eyes RedHat based OSes are more professional then many others,
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On Thu, Dec 25, 2025 at 11:33?AM Dave Blanchard <dave at killthe.net> wrote:
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> I was using Apache Trafficserver before switching to Squid because at the
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> better in fact, as it didn't have a 3 second startup delay, require
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> patching in order to enable fast exit/restart behavior, didn't flip out if
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> the internet connection momentarily went down, etc.
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> Squid on the other hand is the most irritating, fiddly POS, just like most
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> other crapware in the Linux world is, starting with the kernel itself.
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> (There is a reason Linus refused to take charge over the whole Linux
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> ecosystem--because he has no clue how to design a proper user interface.
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> See git, the kernel menuconfig, etc.)
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> Just went to start up Squid again for the first time im a while, and guess
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> what, now the POS is giving "permission denied" trying to open the pthread
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> I sincerely regret the time I invested in tweaking and adjusting this
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> Squid configuration. Should I spend hours trying to figuring out this
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> latest idiotic bug, or just go back to Trafficserver? I think you know the
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> answer. Goodbye Squid, and good riddance.
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> _______________________________________________
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&gt;<i>From my experience I can recommend on a specific distribution for specific
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Alma, however, it's much easier to install Alpine linux (currently 3.23)
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and on top of it squid.
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handle for specific tasks.
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